[Johny58]

New problem: after just a couple of days of using the device the paint has started chipping! This is unbelievable! Has Eten even tested this device before releasing it?! I've already asked this on another forum and have heard that I'm not the only one with paint chipping (the device was handled with care at all times!). Maybe someone here can check for paint chippings as well?

I will see if I can post some pictures of it before.... I SEND IT BACK.

Because that's the only logical decision I can take if a €600 device has this many problems within just 5 days! I hope I'll still be able to get my money back or exchange it for a decent device like an HTC.

[Danylo80]

Danylo80, on Jan 6 2008, 11:40 PM, said:

hi! have you tried java games? Works on m800?

re-ask: please, work with java? for example with jbed?

[RichR]

Are you serious?! Oh man, I just put an order out with eten webshop on this thing.... I really do hope this is isolated but I have a feeling its not... What were they thinking?! You know, I was taking a chance getting an eten but I said hey, VGA screen, good looking design, no one else has it! GPS... yeah, sure... The memory is a bit low but I had a htc 6800 (mogul) and was ok with that as far as the ram, I can deal with this... Chipping paint, I CAN'T deal with! Gonna call eten webshop for some answers...

Johny58, on Jan 8 2008, 09:43 AM, said:

New problem: after just a couple of days of using the device the paint has started chipping! This is unbelievable! Has Eten even tested this device before releasing it?! I've already asked this on another forum and have heard that I'm not the only one with paint chipping (the device was handled with care at all times!). Maybe someone here can check for paint chippings as well?

I will see if I can post some pictures of it before.... I SEND IT BACK.

Because that's the only logical decision I can take if a €600 device has this many problems within just 5 days! I hope I'll still be able to get my money back or exchange it for a decent device like an HTC.

[helmy]

RichR, on Jan 9 2008, 03:04 AM, said:

Are you serious?! Oh man, I just put an order out with eten webshop on this thing.... I really do hope this is isolated but I have a feeling its not... What were they thinking?! You know, I was taking a chance getting an eten but I said hey, VGA screen, good looking design, no one else has it! GPS... yeah, sure... The memory is a bit low but I had a htc 6800 (mogul) and was ok with that as far as the ram, I can deal with this... Chipping paint, I CAN'T deal with! Gonna call eten webshop for some answers...

Maybe it's just me, but I really don't care about the chipping paint. To me, that's just cosmetic. What's more important to me is that it works as it should. I would be very pissed off if it kept on crashing like what rewila is experiencing. I really hope that it works as it should. Luckily, clove and expansys got their delivery delayed. Although, sorry to say, this is at the expense of rewila and Johny58 who got it earlier and informed us their experiences, however, maybe, if they're as bad as they say it is, I might not buy it at all. rewila and Johny58, do you think m800 is worth buying at all?

[Johny58]

Ok, as promised some pics of the 'paint issue'. I'm not a good photographer so taking pictures up close was difficult. So sorry for them not being in focus:

In the first 2 pictures you can see that there is hardly any paint left on the joystick. It was covered completely just 4 days ago. Now there's just a bit left on the top:


http://got.techhelp.nl/m800/10.jpg
http://got.techhelp.nl/m800/11.jpg


Here you can see a piece missing from the Windows logo:

http://got.techhelp.nl/m800/12.jpg


And finally here you can already see a bit of a shiny part where te paint is starting to come off:

http://got.techhelp.nl/m800/13.jpg

[Johny58]

helmy, on Jan 9 2008, 07:03 AM, said:

rewila and Johny58, do you think m800 is worth buying at all?

Coming from a HTC Universal/MDA Pro/Qtek9000 (VGA device), I feel like I'm taking a step backwards from a device that's almost 2,5 years old. So it depends on what you're coming from I guess. I'll be happy going back to my MDA Pro!

[RichR]

Johny58, on Jan 9 2008, 09:45 PM, said:

Coming from a HTC Universal/MDA Pro/Qtek9000 (VGA device), I feel like I'm taking a step backwards from a device that's almost 2,5 years old. So it depends on what you're coming from I guess. I'll be happy going back to my MDA Pro!

I cant beleive this! Maybe this is an isolated situation? Maybe you should try a refund first? Do u have the links to sites where others are having the same problem?

[helmy]

Johny58, on Jan 9 2008, 09:45 PM, said:

Coming from a HTC Universal/MDA Pro/Qtek9000 (VGA device), I feel like I'm taking a step backwards from a device that's almost 2,5 years old. So it depends on what you're coming from I guess. I'll be happy going back to my MDA Pro!

This is so disappointing. I have been looking forward to buy M800 :(

I really want a VGA screen, but there are not many choices out there. And none that have the same specs as M800. Universal is too big. All the i-mates don't have qwerty keyboard. Or maybe I can make do with i-mate 8150, which, even though doesn't have qwerty, at least has a keypad? Although it is not as nice-looking as M800

[helmy]

Been looking for equivalent to m800 and found i-mate 9502 http://www.expansys....e=item&i=158753
. It really is nice-looking, don't you think? However, like M800, it's still not available yet. I wish i hadn't desperately needed a phone right now. Otherwise, I'd have waited for it. But if it can materialize before, end of this month, maybe, I might just wait for it

[rewila]

@ all
rgd Paint chipping,
yes, I can confirm it also happens on my device, even though I 've only used it about a week. I will attach a photo to this post later this evening.

EDIT pic attched
 IMG_0348.jpg (22.29K)
Number of downloads: 127


@ Danylo80
rgd Java,
I don't play games so I have no clue about Java - if you tell me exactly what you want me to do (probably easiest by PrivateMail) I can check it for you.

@helmy
rgd i-mate 9502
Looks like a great device,
I wish I would have waited until one compares the two...

@helmy
rgd

helmy, on Jan 9 2008, 07:03 AM, said:

do you think m800 is worth buying at all?

Don't know yet. - Don't care so much about the paint, but doesn't make me happy either. I am waiting for a bigger SD Card, then I will reconfigure the system and hope there will be no more crashes...

Rgds, Paul

[Johny58]

RichR, on Jan 10 2008, 03:26 AM, said:

I cant beleive this! Maybe this is an isolated situation? Maybe you should try a refund first? Do u have the links to sites where others are having the same problem?

The forum is in dutch... but on this page you'll find some more pictures:
http://gathering.twe...sages/1266618/2

[RichR]

Johny58, on Jan 10 2008, 08:58 PM, said:

The forum is in dutch... but on this page you'll find some more pictures:
http://gathering.twe...sages/1266618/2

I just sent this info to eten webshop customer service. They asked for a link to the forum with the pictures and I sent it over to them. Maybe they can bubble this up.

[Focus]

Hi Everybody,



I am one of the dutch users of the M800 who had reported the paint problems on the dutch GoT forum. Although I also think that functionality is more important than looks, I cannot accept the fact that my brand new 600 euro phone looks like it has been in use for 2 years. I shiver when I think how it will look like in a month.



The store where I bought it from will exchange my phone for a new one that is coming with the next shipment from E-ten. If the problem remains, I will demand a device from another make. Maybe the Toshiba G900 if they ever will be done with taking the software bugs out properly.



I will link my pictures here as well.


http://www.hdtvworld.nl/verf2.JPG


http://www.hdtvworld.nl/verf3.JPG



I am moderately happy with the device itself. The screen is nice, but I also have hang-ups. But I keep in mind that it’s a Microsoft OS that’s on there. Every PDA I owned had similar problems. I wonder how E-ten is going to solve this problem if every device has this problem. If all the casings need to be replaced and all the devices need to be send back, then you’re looking at a lot of work that could take months!

The paint scratchings have become worse btw. The white surface underneath is now completely visable.

[helmy]

Johny58, on Jan 9 2008, 09:45 PM, said:

Coming from a HTC Universal/MDA Pro/Qtek9000 (VGA device), I feel like I'm taking a step backwards from a device that's almost 2,5 years old. So it depends on what you're coming from I guess. I'll be happy going back to my MDA Pro!

Been thinking. While waiting for i-mate 9502, maybe I could, in the meantime, buy a second-hand HTC Universal, also a VGA phone. Johny58, do you tweak your Universal with WM6 that's on XDA-developers?

rewila said:

Don't know yet. - Don't care so much about the paint, but doesn't make me happy either. I am waiting for a bigger SD Card, then I will reconfigure the system and hope there will be no more crashes...

Still got crashes, huh? It's futile, I guess. Also, isn't the 256MB ROM sufficient to install all programs? I don't think moving the programs onto an SD card will solve the crashes problem. It's the phone itself which I think is too unstable

I think before I finally give up having high hopes on M800 being my ultimate phone, I would like to request from you guys who have already bought it (Johny58, rewila, MinPDA, focus) to test cyril's pagepool tweak to increase the RAM for X800 and maybe make it more stable? The steps to do it as per the following link (scroll to post#11 for steps on how to do it):
http://eten-users.eu...showtopic=12511
Thanks guys

[Focus]

There is no ROM updater software on the E-ten website for the M800 yet.